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From: <complex-science@necsi.org> (JohnM)
Sender: <y3list1@necsi.org> (Yaneer Bar-Yam)
Subject: Re: What is a gene? A dynamic & triadic definition of a gene
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:02:06 -0400
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Dear Thanasis - and mainly: Dear Sung.
(A very professional addition to the topic by Sungchul Ji)
 
Although it is somewhat unclear how to think about "LIFE", we have a 'scientific' mechanism and 'identify' details within that.
In the picture - accepted in today's conventional biological sciences - the DNA/RNA helical representation is instrumental. In such there are those segments identified we call 'genes' (if this sentence is not too primitive). As said they store energy (??), have multiple and connective roles in building structures for the life process and are 'dissipative' in Prigogine's terms. (I proposed the 'assipative' to be added, as the input from that outside ambience inwards, just as the dissipative is into it outwards).
 
Identifying in Gerstein et al's words (1) seems pretty meaningless by itself and I go along with Sung's improvements (sort of). I find "functional products" very unidentifying. (Does it include the synthesis and process control of tooth enamel?)
 
I agree with Sung's critique on (2).
In Sung's (3) I would prefer - thinking of the post-Prigogine views of total interconnection and interrelations - the word "relational" for the one directional "dissipative". It is also poorly identifying, but allows for later discoveries to be filled in.
 
I have my ignorance-based second thoughts in modeling 'memory'  (any) after the mechanical storage formats of our present and very primitive computers. Also the tissue-conformational materialized memory theories are suspect: they have a material-rigidity what the human memory lacks and have to be 'recalled' (located) first before they can be 'recalled' in an appropriate coding.
 
To (4)- (6 - 7): and who knows how many more - I mentioned the enamel coding, may add other inorganicals (bone structuring etc. as i-gene?) with all the complexity of a 'body building factory'. Our functional inventory is by far not complete.
 
I want to express my appreciation for Sung's additions - in the right direction - only propose to leave the way open for further discoveries in that field - which is a pretty new one and IMO not necessarily with the right connotations as of today, if we think in nature's totally  interconnected complexity, presently in its toddler level's views (if it went that far at all).
 
I am not a professor, I can be (and am) vague, can propose halfway ready ideas and leave the refutation or completion to those who understand the domain better.
 
John Mikes
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: What is a gene? A dynamic & triadic definition of a gene

Thanks for the info, though the question for me still remains open,
 
Thanasis

2008/7/10 <complex-science@necsi.org>:
(Yaneer, if it is not too late, please replace my previous post with this
one.  Thanks.  Sung)

The most widely accepted definition of a gene during the past four decades
has been a stretch of DNA that codes for a protein. Although this simple
definition of a gene served well for the 20th-century molecular biology
and genetics, the new data that have been emerging since the mid-1990's
(when DNA microarrays were invented) have made the protein-centered
definition of a gene obsolete [1,2,3]. A new definition proposed by
Gerstein and his coworkers at Yale now includes as a gene those DNA
regions that code for RNA as well [2]:

    "A gene is a union of genomic sequences encoding a
     coherent set of potentially overlapping functional
     products."                                           . . . . . (1)

The important phrase here is "functional products", by which the authors
mean proteins and RNA molecules that are biologically active.

The new definition of a gene given in (1) was motivated by the recent
unexpected finding [1,3] that a large portion of the human genome (about
30% of the DNA mass), although not coding for any proteins, nevertheless
code for RNA molecules whose functions have not yet all been characterized.

There are two aspects to the definition of a gene given in (1) that I
believe require revisions:

 i)  It is too static, being based solely on gene "products", i.e.,
proteins and RNA, which are "equilibrium structures".  According to
Prigogine (917-2003)[4], there are two fundamental classes of
structures in nature -- equilibrium (e.g., rocks, chairs, DNA double
helix, nucleotide or amino acid sequences) and dissipative structures
(e.g., the flame of a candle, all sorts of gradients, action potentials,
gene expression profiles). One convenient way to distinguish dissipative
structures from equilibrium structures is to remember that, when energy
input is stopped, the former disappears but the latter remains.
For example, when a computer is turned off, the primary memory (a
dissipative structure) in CPU disappears but the secondary memory (an
equilibrium structure) in the hard disk remains.

 ii) It excludes those DNA regions that regulate gene expression (called
promoters, enhancers, silencers, etc.) without producing any proteins or
RNA. In other words, Gerstein et al's definition of a gene excludes
"dissipative structures" which would include all regulatory processes in
the living cell. This is what Gerstein et al state [2]:

  "Although regulatory regions are important for gene
   expression, we suggest that they should not be
   considered in deciding whether multiple products
   belong to the same gene. . . . "      . . . . . . . . . . .  (2)

To remedy these perceived shortcomings, I suggest that the concept of
"dissipative structures" [4] be incorporated into the definition of a gene
itself. One way to do this is as follows:

   "A gene is a DISSIPATIVE STRUCTURE that embodies (or
    stores) not only genetic information (in the form of a
    nucleotide sequence of DNA regions) but also mechanical
    energy (in the form of conformationally strained DNA
    regions) generated from chemical reactions catalyzed
    by enzymes."           . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (3)

The fact that active regions of DNA carry mechanical energy, for example,
in the form of DNA supercoils, has been well established [5].  Such
mechanical energy stored in DNA has been variously referred to as
conformons [6] and "Stress-Induced Duplex Destabilizations" or SIDDS [5].

The definition of a gene given in (3) is tantamount to postulating that a
gene is a molecular machine composed of DNA segments and associated
proteins that stores mechanical energy generated from chemical reactions
and uses this energy to transcribe its sequence information into RNA
molecules whenever and wherever needed in the cell for a right duration of
time.

The definition of a gene given by (1) can be made compatible with the
definition given by (3) if we make the following two postulates:

     "The whole DNA carries three kinds of genes -- p-genes
     coding for proteins, r-genes coding for RNA, and
     d-genes coding for DNA molecules."  . . . . . . (4)

The existence of d-genes is self-evident, since DNA serves as the template
for its own replication and this ability of DNA is heritable from one cell
generation to the next.

     "DNA carries not only genetic/sequence information but
      also the mechanical energy (called conformons or SIDDS)
      to power gene expression.       . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  (5)

In other words, by combining the dissipative structure concept of
Prigogine [4] and the conformon concept introduced in molecular biology
more than three decades ago (reviewed in [6]), a new definition of a gene
can be
formulated in two parts as follows:

   i) "DNA carries three kinds of genes, each coding
      for proteins (p-genes), RNA molecules (r-genes),
      and DNA molecules (d-genes)." . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(6)

  ii) "DNA stores mechanical energy in the form of
       conformons or SIDDS that powers the
       spatiotemporally organized motions of chromatins
       in order to express p-, r- and d-genes in
       response to the signals received from the
       cytosol."                              . . . . . . . . . . . (7)

Statement (6) can be regarded as a definition of terms that are compatible
with facts, and what is original in the proposed 'triadic' definition of a
gene is contained in Statement (7) in the concept of conformons [6] or
SIDDS [5]. Conformons are defined as the sequence-specific conformational
strains of biopolymers that carry 'ordered energy' to power goal-directed
molecular motions [6].  The first direct experimental evidence for
conformons in DNA was provided by DNA supercoils [5] and for conformons in
proteins by the single-molecule measurements of myosin motions along actin
filament [7]. Also, Statement (6) deals with the informational aspects of
a gene, while Statement (7) is concerned primarily with the energetic
aspect of a gene, consistent with the information-energy complementarity
principle believed to underlie all self-orgnaizng processes in nature [8].

With all the best.

Sung

___________________________________________
Sungchul Ji, Ph.D.
Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology
Rutgers University
Piscataway, N.J., 08855


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