Mailing List complex-science@necsi.org Message #4686

From: James N Rose <integrity at ceptualinstitute.com>
Sender: <yaneer at necsi.org> (Yaneer Bar-Yam)
Subject: Re: A paradigm shift in biology: From DNA to the living cell
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 21:05:50 -0500
To: complex-science
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Russell Standish wrote:
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> This particular goal is considered one of the important open problems
> in the field of Artificial Life. See Bedau et al., Open problems in
> artificial life, Artificial Life 6 (2000): 363-376
 <http://mitpress.mit.edu/journals/ARTL/Bedau.pdf> .
>
> Cheers

Fascinating article. Though a bit self serving, catering
to a narrow view of life, artificial life and pertinence.
And quite reductionistic in thought; little comprehension
re memetics already present in physical (nee,
modelable/computable) systems, prior to the organization
of pre-life and life -- via the natural ecology already
extant at the level of atoms and simple molecules.

The authors' clarity/specificity is admirable but
generally myopic. In the same vein that I always
lauch when watching the 'human' version of the
future and how it will interact with 'intelligent
machines' (ala, "2001"s Hal, and all the Star Trek
"Computer, make me a cup of tea. Talk to me about
(fill in the blank).")

A more likely future of these silicate-sentients
will be like the small nano-bots of one second series
Star Trek program, or Collosus: The Forbin Project.

Why would any cogent life form capable of light-speed
digital "communication" waste it's time talking at the
rate of human verbalization? Plainly, it wouldn't.

Yet Bedeau et al. paint this cozy wonderful picture
of life with humanity at the helm. They can't be 'personally'
faulted though. That's the egoistic mindset of humanity -
sampled, epitomized.

Artificial intelligence has the capacity to be the
genii unleashed, more than atomic radiation was.

The key concept in the original "Jurassic Park"
story was the sentence, "Life will find a way."
So will silicate-sentience, once it's designed
to maximize its potential.

In the meantime, Bedeau et al. are quite mistaken
(albeit they acknowledge they have not been
exhaustive re recognition of the extensive
prior literature), as there are propositions in
the active scientific community which do scope
out and deal with all and more of the issues
of their Section 3.5.

The transition from pre-animate to animate is
quite comprehensible. But first it takes a
willingness to reformulate the essential paradigm,
and one's percept of 'behaviors'.

Jamie Rose
Ceptual Institute
March 5, 2003

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